This is a
collection of information about real, sacred, and blessed Thai
amulets.
My wife is a lovely Thai girl from
the Sisaket countryside in Thailand in the northeast. We have been given, and have
collected over the past few years many Buddhist amulets of various
types. We have so many at this point we don't know what to do with
them (2005), so they sat in storage where they weren't doing anybody
any good at all. We decided to sell many of them and
keep those that have personal meaning to us. We have sold new
amulets from Wat Tum Sua in Krabi, Thailand for years now. In the
next few weeks we'll start featuring our old, rare, unique and one
of a kind Thai amulets in our old amulets section. These are all guaranteed
authentic.
Here on this page we wanted to give you as much information as possible
to help you decide, is your amulet genuine and 100% authentic, or is
it a fake, Thais' call fake amulets, "Blawm" and they are as
worthless here as they are in your hands in America, Europe,
Australia or wherever you happen to be.
How does
one tell real amulets from fakes in an Ebay auction?
False information is the
easiest way. The top running scam on Ebay appears to be calling
every gold amulet - solid gold. Every gold case is called solid
gold. This is incorrect in 99% of all ads we saw on EBay. Meaning,
there are gold cases, but maybe 1% of sellers even have one. Solid
gold cases are not popular in Thailand. They are too soft. If
someone is selling a solid gold amulet or any amulet in what they
are calling a solid gold case - it's more than likely a scam, please
don't buy such a thing.
Nearly all
Thai amulets are easily faked. You
cannot tell from photos. Sometimes it's impossible to tell in
person. I have some good friends that are Thai amulet vendors here
in Thailand and sometimes they admit they too are fooled. What to
look for?
It is impossible to tell 100% if the amulet is genuine. One must trust that the seller is
selling genuine articles. If you are a frequent buyer of sacred Thai
amulets you need to align yourself with a seller or sellers that you
trust and that consistently give you great amulets. Here are some ways you that will help you
make the decision about whether the amulets are genuine or fake.
Is the seller
located in Thailand? How can you know this?
Ask the
seller to send a photo of a Thai license plate, or some of the
houses outside where they live. Or perhaps some Thai writing on a
box or bag at their home.
Ideally you could
ask for a photo sent by email of the amulet he is selling in
front of the daily "Bangkok Post" newspaper or "The Nation"
newspaper. Then you will know - is the seller living in Thailand or
scamming you from another part of the world? Maybe in the town next to
yours. Ask the seller to send you photos
of Thailand that he took over the years. Doesn't he have any? How
can someone stay in this amazing country and not be able to produce at
least a couple hundred images of himself or herself in Thailand?
Can't
the person explain what the photos are of? EVERYONE
takes photos here - Thailand is the most beautiful place I've ever
seen in the world... everyone would have photos. You can see the
website we made for our local temple at "http://wattumsua.thaipulse.com" to
see some of our photos and videos. We are very real sellers here. My wife is
Thai and I am an American. I have been in Thailand for over 7 years
and now that we have a child here we will live in Thailand... well, probably
forever.
The best
thing to look for in a Thai amulet is whether the amulet seller is
getting them from the temple or not. Does he/she mention that the
amulets are coming direct from a Buddhist temple in Thailand?
If not, your Thai amulet might be coming from Miami, Florida. It's
easy to make cheap bronze, copper, and clay amulets. There is big money
in it - and I'd guess that 95% or more of all amulets sold on eBay are fake Thai
amulets. I'd further guess that 80% of all Thai amulets sold at private
websites / online stores are also fake. These are just guesses, but
we've spent a lot of time online looking at what other amulet sellers
are doing. It's scary, and it goes against Buddhism - but, most of the
sellers online are not Buddhist at all.
When you're
looking to prove whether the Thai amulet you are going to buy is
authentic or not - the prime consideration should be - the way the
seller presents it.
Does the seller have photos of the temple the amulets come from?
Photos of the abbot of the temple that blesses each amulet before it is
sold? Is the abbot of the temple anyone special or not? Does the seller
have photos or videos of him/herself with the abbot of the temple?
That's a great way to prove the seller is actually in Thailand.
Does the seller have the items, or is the entire
auction a scam?
The technique of getting a picture of multiple items together in a
group works well. If you are buying a batch of amulets you can request
that we put them all together and take a video, prior to us sending them
to you. Obviously we must have the amulets if we can do that for you.
Does the seller add historical
information about the amulet?
Where did the amulet come from
(city)? What temple is the amulet from? What monk is featured?
Thai people will never purchase an amulet that they don't know the
history about. Even if the seller bought the item in Thailand he
would know the history. If he doesn't, you should suspect a scam.
Does the seller have good feedback?
This can be a
trick, so watch this carefully. Ebay sellers can build up
a username with great feedback by selling and buying very cheap
items - 50 cents or less - maybe hundreds of them to build up their
feedback rating. They then list $20,000 worth of amulets, mobile
phones, notebook computers, or other expensive items and have them
all end on the same day. They take the money and run.
It is
possible to BUY an Ebay username as well - and some people make big
money doing this - they sell an Ebay username for $500-1000 usd
which is then later used to run up a huge group of auctions that
they don't plan on sending items for - just collecting the cash.
Don't be a victim! Be careful buying high dollar items over $300 USD
or whatever you can't afford to lose.
We don't sell much on EBay
because we're not usually dealing with Buddhists or serious
collectors of amulets there. There are many scamming buyers as well
as sellers. We prefer to list our old amulets here
and build a relationship with buyers that continue buying from us
for years. This has been the way it's worked with our new amulets,
and now as we offer the old - we hope the same.
Specific Information about New Amulets (less
than 100 years old):
1. Does the seller have
the city of origination listed? The wat?
If new and
authentic he will know the amulet's origin and other specifics and write it in the auction ad
or on the site.
2. Jatukam Amulets - Jatukam (Jatukum) amulets
were at a peak in popularity a couple of years ago but many Thais
are still collecting them like there is no tomorrow. We don't have
many on site because we cannot find the good ones all that often.
(Update - we now have about 25 Jatukam amulets, but most are not
online at our store. Ask if interested in Jatukam.)
About Old Amulets (100+ years old):
There are Thai jewelers here that are going against their religion and
building up a lot of bad karma by faking the age of their amulets by
brushing them with dirt, sand, rust shavings, other metals, and using other
techniques. Some things to look for with old amulets...
1. Does the amulet smell strongly of the material it is made
from?
Amulets lose their smell over time. One exception to this is some
Lek Lai amulets which still have a smell even after many years. One way to tell
the authenticity of an OLD amulet is to see if it smells strongly. With
the exception of the Lek-lai amulets, Buddhist amulets typically do
not smell much if they are ancient. The smell has worn away, like
the sharp amulet edges and details.
2. Are there mold marks on the old amulet?
If you check the
sides - not the front and the back - you may see a seal from where
the mold closed together. Molds were not used much before 100 years
ago and if an auction seller is telling you the item is over 400
years old and you can plainly see mold creases - you are likely
being sold a fake item. There ARE exceptions to this as sometimes
monks would put two halves together. If this is the case you will
see a very obvious and uneven crease in where the two halves have
been joined. Look for a very small crease that is straight and seems
to be from two halves being pressed together that signifies a
recently made Thai amulet.
3. Old
amulets (100+ years) that are genuine will probably NOT be found for under $100 USD,
regardless of size. Why would a seller sell them for under their
cost here in Thailand. Logically it doesn't make sense, and cannot be.
Newer amulets between 10 and 30 years can sometimes be found for as low as
$70. Sometimes here on this site we have specials at this rate
because we have hundreds of amulets that we should really share with
the rest of the world. We feel like we're being selfish by keeping
them.
4. Old
amulets are imperfect.
Over 100 years ago nobody was thinking
about preserving the item in plastic, glass or other cases. The VERY
old amulets over 100 years are imperfect, and that is part of their
charm and helps prove that they are original. If someone is telling you
that a perfect amulet is over 100 years old I would be pretty
skeptical. It's possible, but maybe 2% of all amulets over 100 years
old are in perfect shape because they were never exposed to the
elements of heat, sunlight, and Thailand's very humid air.
5. Is the amulet original and one of a kind?
Typically
the very old amulets (100+ years) are absolutely unique and original. You will
likely not find two OLD amulets of the exact same type, size,
colors, materials, etc. If you do, be skeptical. You can search EBays past listings in the "advanced search" function. If a seller
is selling multiple very old items that are the same - they are fake - I'm 100%
sure. I have found amulets in Chinese stores in Ubon Ratchathani for
2 baht each (8 cents USD). They are the shiny metal and dulled metal - some
designed to look old. It can be hard for you to decide by a picture
on Ebay, however, if the seller is selling the same type amulet
again after his present auction - they are fake and he is getting them for 5
cents to 20 cents per amulet! Are they worth the $30-$200 you're buying
them for?
6.
Is the seller representing the amulet's case as being more than
100 years old?
Prior to 100 years ago or so amulets were
sometimes wrapped in a silver, gold or other metal encasement that
just outlines the edge of the amulet and protects it from breaking
pieces off when brushed up against things during normal wear. There
were no plastic or glass cases that are much older than 100 years.
Trust me. Most serious collectors here don't like to put old amulets
into new cases. It's just not 'right'. However, those amulets that
are over 100 years old unless they are brass, copper, silver, gold
or nickel, need something to protect them - a new case or old antique
case, up to you.
Recently there has been a massive interest in the
round-shaped Jatukam
type Amulets. These are new amulets, do not let anyone tell you that
they are ancient, they are not. The Jatukam amulets have not been
made before 2004. That said, there are still some Jatukam amulets
that Thai people believe will bring them good fortune. Some being sold outside of Thailand are genuine and
some are not. We cannot tell you which ones to purchase as one must
know the history of the amulet in order to call it genuine. We
buy all Jatukam amulets from the original temple in Thailand where they
started - Nakhon Si Thammarat's Wat Phra Mahathat. This way we know we
only carry authentic items. Ask sellers WHERE their Jatukam amulets came
from.
It's nearly impossible to prove that an amulet is
genuine unless you know the history
of it. However,
you can spot some fake amulets rather easily.
Metal amulets - These can be produced by amateurs with a mold for
the amulet. All of our newer metal amulets come directly from the
temple and we have photos, videos, stickers. There are
thousands of fake amulets on the market. Trust in the person you buy
from is essential. If you don't care about authenticity go to eBay
and buy amulets for $1-30. I've seen some obvious fakes as high as $600. There
appear to be few reputable dealers on Ebay.
If you have any question at all, please write us at:
ThaiAmuletSalesCom@gmail.com
and we will answer your question to the best of our ability.
Look for Thai
Amulet Sales sites in Google and find the ones that don't appear to be
selling hype. It's
easy to talk wildly about how great a Thai amulet store is - it's
another thing to sell the amulets in a low key, respectable fashion that
brings credit to the seller, the amulets, and Buddhism as a religion of
simple-minded, good-hearted people.
Buying Thai amulets for more than $100 is very risky business because
the potential exists for you to be cheated out of a lot more money.
Buying old Thai amulets from someone that you don't know, trust, or know
someone that trusts the seller - is a very risky idea. I said before, I would guess
that 99+ percent of all old amulets sold online are not genuine Thai
amulets but are worthless clay that some unscrupulous amulet makers
churn out by the thousands here in Thailand daily.
An old Thai amulet has history. If it doesn't - who is to say where it
came from? Thai people tell the history of the amulets that are old and
worth anything. They know intimately where the amulet has been, who made
it - who owned it - how many were made in Thailand, and other details.
The Thais' tend to keep their very valuable amulets to themselves - and
the temples are full of them. They aren't selling most of them either.
Occasionally a foreigner will get a hold of some valuable Thai amulets
to sell but, it's a rare occurrence. I have had a batch to sell and sold
some, and I know of only one other authentic old amulet seller on eBay
that I could vouch for.
Thai amulets are great gifts and many people pay far too much for junk.
Why not try to find an authentic Thai amulet by focusing much more on
the seller, the website, the lack of hype behind the sales process, the
Buddhist values the seller believes in - to find your Thai amulet? I
think you'll have a better experience.Metta! :) |